Monday, April 21, 2008

BPA - what do you think?

What's your take on the bisphenol-A scare that's been all over the media? Real reason for concern? Media hype? Vote in the poll, and comment if you feel so inclined. :o)

13 comments:

Kermit~the~Frog said...

My kids bought me a Sigg water bottle for my birthday. They're protecting their unborn sibling.

Maybe this is why Scooter is so hormonal all the time. He was bottle-fed.

shannon said...

Never heard of BPA until right now. I'll have to let you know later.

Science Teacher Mommy said...

Haven't even heard about it. Not going to stress. I'm a little more concerned about the public health video Plantboy watched yesterday in Ward Council. Our stake was encouraged to show it--there have been confirmed cases of bird flu passing human to human in the Middle East. The council was urged to make sure their three month supply was in order.

And don't start messing with me about bottle fed babies. I know how you feel about nursing, Doreen, but nothing will convince me I did anything wrong moving my kids to bottles when I did. Nursing seems to go really well for me the first several months and then about month five it goes south. I've tried all the tricks to make it not be so, but I'm not willing to let my kids of any age spend half (or all of) the night in my bed. Even without the family bed, I'm so sleep deprived and cranky by four months post partum that nursing is about all I'm good for (not parenting). I forced number 1 to nurse until 9 months. He didn't even cry about it when I quit. #2 and #3 were allowed to go to a bottle around month six and were so much happier for it.

I guess I just think mothers have enough to feel guilty about without stressing about plastics. And I think it is important to remember that, as we look at different types of parenting, we have to remember that most moms are honestly doing what they think is best for their family. There is nothing wrong with educating women, but there is something wrong with making practices (nursing vs. bottles) more important than principles (nurturing your children).

Doreen said...

Um, STM, why are you so defensive? Nowhere in my post did I even mention bottle feeding. I'm a little confused as to how exactly you interpreted it as a "see, you should breastfeed and ditch formula" post??? Yes, a lot of the media hype that's been going on has been about baby bottles. However, I can honestly say that when I posted this, baby bottles never once crossed my mind. #6 and #7 plastics are used for a lot of things, I was thinking more along the lines of sippy cups, food storage containers, and the plastic bottle I currently use to drink my water from. I was in no way trying to make anyone feel guilty for bottle feeding. In fact, if you read through my ramblings on formula carefully, I always acknowledge that it's a choice people have and are free to make. In one of my recent posts I think I even mentioned something about not making people feel guilty for not breastfeeding? I honestly don't know how my BPA post could be interpreted as doing just that??? And for what it's worth, there are BPA free bottles available for those moms who formula feed and are concerned about the issue. I really am a little puzzled by your response?

As for the family bed, it's actually enabled us to get MORE sleep and be LESS sleep deprived. But that's just me, I know it doesn't work the same way for others. And some people just don't want to sleep-share, which is fine, too.

Doreen said...

"There is nothing wrong with educating women, but there is something wrong with making practices (nursing vs. bottles) more important than principles (nurturing your children)."

You know, this really bothers me. I honestly don't see how this post did any of that??? I do firmly believe that women need to make informed decisions. My goal is to provide information, in various ways. The purpose of this blog is partly to provide information, but it's mostly a personal blog. So it will have some of my personal feelings in it, and it will also have the occasional vent or rant. That's not to say that I go out and preach these things. Furthermore, you have to know where I'm coming from, and where some of my feelings stem from. I have made a lot of decisions regarding my children without being truly informed. I've had a traumatic hospital birth, I've bottle fed, and I've had my sons circumcised. Sadly, I have to admit that none of those decisions were educated decisions. They were decisions made simply by following the "mainstream." Some of these decisions I can live with, others I have serious mommy guilt about. That's also a reason why this blog exists. For me to vent some of those feelings, and to encourage others to do their research and educate themselves BEFORE making decisions. I hope you can understand that.

Leia said...

My birth boards scared the crap out of me, so I'm replacing what I can. Bottles were the first to go - I hate that she had to use them to begin with, but I had no other choice. Her safe ones came in tonight (and thank goodness she took it!) I threw out the bad sippies, but we have to many kinds, that I don't need to buy more. Glad I don't have any of the Gerber plastic container baby foods anymore! They are #7.

Jeannie said...

I am concerned, but trying not to freak out. I thought I had read that it was only a problem if heated, but who knows what is true.

I have been checking on the plastics that we do use, and am tossing some as I find them. Cassie is a big fan of those little oranges in the cups, Dole I think? but anyhow, I used to save those little cups, they are a perfect serving size for grapes, appplesauce, crackers, etc. Anyhow, those are 7s. Fabulous.

I am trying not to be paranoid about it. But I do wish that the media wasn't trying to scare the living daylights out of us all the time.

(oh, and the first comment has a blip about bottles...so maybe that's where that thought came from....)

I love your blog. I have learned a ton about childbirth from it.....

Doreen said...

Thanks Jeannie. :o) Yes, I just noticed the reference to bottles in the first comment. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe I'll have to put a disclaimer on my blog. I claim full responsibility for content posted, but none whatsoever for my readers' comments (whether I agree with them or not). :p

Leia, we use a lot of those Glad food storage containers. I think those are #7 plastics. And yeah, we've been heating food in them in the microwave and everything. I'll probably replace those...

Jeannie said...

crap, really Glad containers are 7s? off to check them now.....

So is it just 7s that are bad, or 5s too? I have heard conflicting things....

(adding, my comments are fully my own....:) )

Doreen said...

Jeannie, I think it's 3, 6 and 7. I know for sure 1 and 2 are safe (as of right now, anyway), and I think so are 5's...

Science Teacher Mommy said...

I'm sorry. I didn't mean you. There was a comment by Kermit the Frog that triggered it. REALLY sorry. I was really also trying to say what works for one doesn't for another and my ideas are no more valid than somebody elses. Again, no offense intended: you are one of the best, most patient and dedicated mothers I know. I have so much respect for how much you had educated yourself about birth and nursing.

I'm feeling a little dumb actually. Kermit probably meant her comment as a joke. I have a friend right now who is (miserably) nursing a 15 month old and isn't afraid to tell anybody how miserable she is. She is cranky, her baby is cranky, her kids are cranky . . . you get the picture. Mom and baby probably each get about 5 hours of sleep a night. She asks me all the time about advice for how to get my kids sleeping through the night and I just tell her what I did, and she just argues with me. It is a little awkward. I probably just had some of that on the brain.

It's not you, it's me?

Doreen said...

Eh, no worries STM. I eventually figured it was something like that. I was just a little taken back because you mentioned my name in your comment. :p And as for your friend, it doesn't sound like a healthy relationship. If something isn't working for the mom or the baby or the family as a whole, then changes need to be made, whatever that involves. It's not healthy to have a home birth just to fit some category of parenting. Neither is it healthy to breastfeed, especially past one year of age, just to fit a category. Or co-sleep, or use a sling. You gotta figure out what parenting style works best for yourself and your family. Experiment, try different things, and ultimately follow your instinct. That's the nice thing about having choices, it gives us an opportunity to find what works best. And what works for one baby may not work for the next. Diversity and choices are GOOD things. As is educating oneself. Now that's something we need to work on. Educating ourselves, and being open to talking to others about our experiences and what we have learned. I just got a call yesterday from a mommy-to-be who wanted to know more about my midwife, home birth, and my experiences with both the hospital and home settings. I talked to her for almost 2 hours, and loved every minute of it (I hope she did, too, and I wasn't just talking her ear off, hehe). Anyway, a whole different post in itself, really. And no hard feelings whatsoever. It's often difficult to know the tone of voice/intent with written conversations, happens to all of us at some point (and hey, it happens to me more often than not even in "normal" conversation...). :o)

Science Teacher Mommy said...

I read a book on birth once with a great analogy. The woman said that it can be argued that for many, many years after the introduction of the automobile, people still had a choice to do horse and buggy. The problem was that society changed at such a pace that pretty soon the choice was just an academic exercise and a not really a choice at all.

Her analogy was that sure women have childbirth choices, but in a society that pushes so much the medical intervention birth, even finding out about options is nearly impossible.

The problem for me is that I'm caught in the middle. I'd like to have a baby naturally, but with my personality, the nature of my first birth, my family . . . I would never want that birth to be at home. Unfortunately, my three very different hospital experiences have shown me that a hospital setting makes natural childbirth nearly impossible (at least in this country). There are really so few real birthing centers--clinics that are just for women and families to have babies. Higher tech than your bedroom, but cozier than a hospital. It is also nearly impossible to find a women's health practice that is a shared cooperative of doctors and nurse-midwives. Those of us that want a natural birth, but also crave more technical support (or reassurance) than a home birth, are kind of left in the dust.

My second birth was my favorite, it was the LEAST intervened of the three. He came faster, my body responded very well, my pain was managed exactly correctly (not so little I was trying to fight, not so much I couldn't be a part of the experience) for me. But because of scary moment with each baby #1 and #3 I was so grateful to have a skilled doctor on hand.

I feel like I've had so many good friends on both sides of this, but I think it is too bad that more people can't be in the middle. I think that middle ground is what better education, policies made by women, and fixing the insurance mess would give to us.

That's all. :)